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		<title>GWT, Maven2, Eclipse &#8211; part2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to finish my previous post on the Maven2 setup with GWT. Since Google/GWT doesn&#8217;t provide any maven central repositories you&#8217;d have to install them yourself into either your development maven repo or into your local maven repo. Below are the commands to do it (assuming Windows dev env and some path). There is [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to finish my previous post on the Maven2 setup with GWT. Since Google/GWT doesn&#8217;t provide any maven central repositories you&#8217;d have to install them yourself into either your development maven repo or into your local maven repo. Below are the commands to do it (assuming Windows dev env and some path).</p>
<p><span id="more-120"></span>There is however one major problem with using GWT hosted mode under maven &#8211; it&#8217;s the native hosted mode libraries (dlls) and the way Google chose to implement them &#8211; a couple of GWT hosted mode dlls need to be located _in the same_ folder where the gwt-dev-windows.jar is present. And thus the hack below to copy the dlls into such location. And no, -Djava.library.path won&#8217;t work!!! Unfortunately, this setup will only work with the local maven repositories and will completely fail if you try this trick with the remote maven repos (unless I&#8217;m unaware of some other hack).<br />
<code><br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-dev-windows -Dversion=1.5 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-dev-windows.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-dev-windows -Dversion=1.5 -Dclassifier=sources -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-dev-windows.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
cmd /c copy C:\java\gwt\gwt-windows-0.0.0\swt-win32-3235.dll C:\java\apache-maven-2.0.8\conf\repository\com\google\gwt-dev-windows\1.5<br />
cmd /c copy C:\java\gwt\gwt-windows-0.0.0\gwt-ll.dll C:\java\apache-maven-2.0.8\conf\repository\com\google\gwt-dev-windows\1.5<br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-user -Dversion=1.5 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-user.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-user -Dversion=1.5 -Dclassifier=sources -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-user.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-servlet -Dversion=1.5 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-servlet.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
cmd /c mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=com.google -DartifactId=gwt-servlet -Dversion=1.5 -Dclassifier=sources -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=C:/java/gwt/gwt-windows-0.0.0/gwt-servlet.jar -DgeneratePom=true -DcreateChecksum=true<br />
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<p>One more thing, I find that Jetty&#8217;s manual refresh mode available in maven-jetty-plugin version 6.1.12.rc2+ be very handy when developing stuff with GWT and java/jetty/spring. I can edit my GWT files all I want and only reload server stuff when I indeed changed something in the server side java code (rather than the Java code that gets compiled into javascript by GWT but leaves in the same maven project). Here is my jetty maven plugin configuration that I use for the -noserver development, in case you are interested<br />
<code><br />
&lt;plugin&gt;<br />
&lt;groupId&gt;org.mortbay.jetty&lt;/groupId&gt;<br />
&lt;artifactId&gt;maven-jetty-plugin&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br />
&lt;version&gt;6.1.12.rc2&lt;/version&gt;<br />
&lt;configuration&gt;<br />
&lt;reload&gt;manual&lt;/reload&gt;<br />
&lt;scanIntervalSeconds&gt;10&lt;/scanIntervalSeconds&gt;<br />
&lt;stopKey&gt;foo&lt;/stopKey&gt;<br />
&lt;stopPort&gt;9997&lt;/stopPort&gt;<br />
&lt;webAppConfig&gt;<br />
&lt;contextPath&gt;/&lt;/contextPath&gt;<br />
&lt;defaultsDescriptor&gt;src/main/servers/jetty/dev/webdefault.xml&lt;/defaultsDescriptor&gt;<br />
&lt;/webAppConfig&gt;<br />
&lt;scanTargetPatterns&gt;<br />
&lt;scanTargetPattern&gt;<br />
&lt;directory&gt;src/main/webapp/WEB-INF&lt;/directory&gt;<br />
&lt;includes&gt;<br />
&lt;include&gt;**/*&lt;/include&gt;<br />
&lt;/includes&gt;<br />
&lt;/scanTargetPattern&gt;<br />
&lt;/scanTargetPatterns&gt;<br />
&lt;/configuration&gt;<br />
&lt;/plugin&gt;<br />
</code><br />
Anyway, hopefully this was useful for some of you and look forward to any comments.</p>


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		<title>gwt-incubator &#8211; what&#8217;s in it?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[gwt-incubator project is basically a gwt playpen area. It has a pretty good wiki with examples and descriptions. I just looked over the incubator trunk and compiled most of the demos and would like to share my summary of the widgets. 1) bulk loading table &#8211; basically a high performance HTML table generator based on [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/" target="_blank">gwt-incubator</a> project is basically a gwt playpen area. It has a pretty good wiki with examples and descriptions. I just looked over the incubator trunk and compiled most of the demos and would like to share my summary of the widgets.</p>
<p>1) bulk loading table &#8211; basically a high performance HTML table generator based on innerHTML approach. No fancy demos, but here is the screenshot:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bulkloadingtable.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-91" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bulkloadingtable.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="77" /></a></p>
<p>2) generator example &#8211; an example of a GWT generator. Nothing fancy but educational.</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/complexgenerator1.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-93" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/complexgenerator1.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="88" /></a></p>
<p>3) DatePicker &#8211; a pretty slick GWT calendar widget</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/datepicker.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-94" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/datepicker.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>4) Dropdown listbox &#8211; some kind of a new widget based a some newly prototyped GWT event model (it seems):</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dropdownlistbox.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-95" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/dropdownlistbox.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>5) FastTree &#8211; again, another bulk generator this time for trees. Pretty neet and fast:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/fasttree.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-96" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/fasttree.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="80" /></a></p>
<p>6) LogginDemo &#8211; basically an enhanced version of GWT logger for the browsers.<br />
<a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/loggingdemo.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-97" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/loggingdemo.png?w=128" alt="" width="128" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>7) Paging scroll table and Scroll table &#8211; sophisticated grid/table widget supporting editing, column resizing, paging etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/pagingscrolltable.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-98" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/pagingscrolltable.png?w=115" alt="" width="115" height="96" /></a><br />
 <img src='http://www.gwtnow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Pinned Panel &#8211; a neat sliding panel type widget with the panel capable of rolling from a side of the screen:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/pinnedpanel.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-99" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/pinnedpanel.png?w=101" alt="" width="101" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>9) Progress bars &#8211; the oft requested GWT feature but for some reason missing from the core GWT:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/progressbars.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-100" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/progressbars.png?w=117" alt="" width="117" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>10) Slider Bar &#8211; a powerful and sophisticated GWT slider implementation:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sliderbar.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-101" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sliderbar.png?w=104" alt="" width="104" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>11) Spinners &#8211; anything non-visual that can spin, can be spinned <img src='http://www.gwtnow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . pretty interesting, IMO:</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/spinners.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-102" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/spinners.png?w=125" alt="" width="125" height="96" /></a></p>
<p>12) Style injector/Immutable Resource Bundle &#8211; injecting CSS into GWT compilation result using annotations, and writing code within CSS to customize for different browsers or what not.</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/styleinjector1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-104" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/styleinjector1.png?w=300" alt="" width="300" height="184" /></a></p>
<p>13) YouTube widget (or any Flash object) &#8211; embed YouTube videos or whatever other objects using GWT.</p>
<p><a href="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/youtube.png"><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-105" src="http://gwtnow.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/youtube.png?w=104" alt="" width="104" height="96" /></a></p>


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		<title>GWT 1.5 Final is now available</title>
		<link>http://www.gwtnow.com/2008/08/28/gwt-15-final-is-now-available/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All GWT developers rejoyce! GWT 1.5 is here: &#8220;This has been a big development cycle, and we&#8217;re really excited about the advancements in GWT over the last year. As always, we&#8217;re eager to hear your feedback once you&#8217;ve tried this new version.&#8221; The detailed description of new features can be found in the official announcement [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All GWT developers rejoyce! GWT 1.5 is <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/ce564ca210d58164" target="_blank">here</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;<span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;">This has been a big development cycle, and we&#8217;re really excited about the advancements in GWT over the last year. As always, we&#8217;re eager to hear your feedback once you&#8217;ve tried this new version.</span>&#8221;</p>
<p>The detailed description of new features can be found in <a href="http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2008/08/gwt-15-now-available.html" target="_blank">the official announcement </a></p>


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		<title>GWT1.5 RC2 now officially out</title>
		<link>http://www.gwtnow.com/2008/08/12/gwt15-rc2-now-officially-out/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;GWT 1.5 RC2 includes a number of enhancements and fixes above and beyond those included in the first release candidate. Please see the release notes included in the installation archive for details.&#8221; Read more here and here or just download it here Related posts:GWT 1.5 RC2 is out Available under http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/downloads/list &#8220;This release candidate includes [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;">GWT 1.5 RC2 includes a number of enhancements and fixes above and beyond those included in the first release candidate. </span><span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;">Please see the <a href="http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/releases/release-notes-1.5.1.html" target="_blank">release notes</a> included in the installation archive for details.</span>&#8221;</p>
<p>Read more <a href="http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/thread/ea6474bd2b6c6fee#" target="_blank">here</a> or just download it <a href="http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/download.html" target="_blank">here</a></p>


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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Available under http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/downloads/list &#8220;This release candidate includes a number of enhancements and fixes above and beyond those included in the first release candidate. Please see the release notes included in the installation archive for details. We will be updating the public documentation and posting further details on the Google Web Toolkit blog soon: http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/ We&#8217;re [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Available under <a href="http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/downloads/list" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/downloads/list</a></p>
<p><span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;"> &#8220;This release candidate includes a number of enhancements and fixes above and beyond those included in the first release candidate. Please see the release notes included in the installation archive for details. We will be updating the public documentation and posting further details on the Google Web Toolkit blog soon:<br />
</span></p>
<p><span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;"> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/</a><br />
</span></p>
<p><span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;">We&#8217;re eager to get everyone&#8217;s feedback, so please try it out!&#8221;</span></p>


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		<title>GWT is going non-monolithic (runAsync)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There have been many discussions on GWT forums about the monolithic nature of javascript produced by GWT&#8217;s java-to-javascript compiler (typical GWT compilation output consists of a single .js file produced for every major browser). Although this certainly is a tried-and-true approach in GWT for improving performance, many developers of large GWT-based projects would like to [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been many discussions on GWT forums about the monolithic nature of javascript produced by GWT&#8217;s java-to-javascript compiler (typical GWT compilation output consists of a single .js file produced for every major browser).  Although this certainly is a tried-and-true approach in GWT for improving performance,  many developers of large GWT-based projects would like to have the flexibility to partition their applications and load their parts dynamically at runtime.  It looks like Google WebToolkit team is making great progress in implementing this exact functionality in a future release. I noticed <a href="http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/changes/spoon/runAsync" target="_blank">this branch</a> (called runAsync) within GWT trunk. And here is sneak peak at how it may look like in the code:</p>
<p>AsyncCallback&lt;MyBigCompositeWidet&gt; callback= new AsyncCallback&lt;MyBigCompositeWidet&gt;() {<br />
public void onFailure(Throwable caught) {<br />
// TODO Auto-generated method stub<br />
}</p>
<p>public void onSuccess(MyBigCompositeWidet result) {</p>
<p>result.setVisible(false);<br />
}<br />
};</p>
<p>GWT.createAsync(MyBigCompositeWidet.class, callback)</p>
<p>Pretty Slick!</p>


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		<title>GWT compiler is getting parallel (and faster)&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google guys are gearing up to include much desired parallelization features into the GWT compiler. The feature is still really rough and only exists as a patch, but results are very promising. According to some folks who tried the patch the compilation time drops dramatically (40-50%) on the multicore workstations. E.g. Showcase: Before: (0:02:04.754) After: [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google guys are gearing up to include much desired parallelization features into the GWT compiler. The feature is still really rough and only exists as a patch, but results are very promising. According to some folks who tried the patch the compilation time drops dramatically (40-50%) on the multicore workstations.</p>
<p>E.g. <span class="fixed_width" style="font-family:Courier,Monospaced;">Showcase:<br />
Before:  (0:02:04.754)<br />
After:  (0:01:03.398) </span></p>
<p>Read more in <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Contributors/browse_thread/thread/7c7fbf9732918d31/67fbf2b87533dca4#67fbf2b87533dca4" target="_blank">this forum thread</a>.</p>


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